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 The Night of the Idaho Student Murders - videohaat.com

The Night of the Idaho Student Murders - videohaat.com

Be known as the scene of one of the most tragic crimes in American history

there's still sort of a Darkness whenever you talk to people it will be ever part of the University's

history and the town's history there are four very very important names

in this case Kaylee Gonzalez Madison Mogan

odal and Ethan Chapin and if you're going to remember any names from this case I ask that it be all four

my name is Olivia Gonzalez and Kaylee was my little sister

everybody's going to work and you look out the window and there's kids running down the street laughing and you're just like

how can you be out there playing my daughter's dead you know Keely Gonzo and so I'm on

stop everything everybody in the whole world stop and everything just keeps going

[Music] my sister is Anna kernodle is one of the happiest funniest people

I've ever met and I had the awesome privilege of growing up with her and

I still have a hard time coming to terms with the fact that it did happen

kober who's accused of stabbing these four University of Idaho students in the

pre-dawn hours on November 13th 2022. the murder weapon which was a knife has

never been found this is a type of survival knife Brian coburger did not make his own plea the judge entered a

plea for him of not guilty that's my penalties life in prison for the death

penalty due to the nature of the crimes the state of Idaho is seeking the death penalty he was there to kill he came in

with the kit I believe he had a kill kit and you believe that everything right down to

the Implement of Destruction this large Marine knife that was all planned

all planned it's inhumane you wouldn't do these type of things to any living

creature let alone an innocent human being

said evidence in the prosecution's case is the DNA that was found on the knife sheath that was left at the crime scene

but there's so much other evidence that's also pointing towards nobody else that we're aware of

how is Brian coburger's car spotted leaving the scene why was his cell phone

seen there 12 times including the morning after the offense the prosecution would like everyone to

believe that it's an open and shut case but I think the facts they have make the

case more open than open and shut according to the defense there is no

connection whatsoever between Brian coburger and the victims and if there is

no connection then there is no motive and if there is no motive then it

becomes very hard to make the case that he is the Killer and this is a graduate

student not a trained assassin it's more so about putting these pieces together

because I know what the puzzle looks like at the end I have the box in front of me but I'm missing so many pieces

how did all of these pieces fall to create what I'm living in right now

where did where did this come from [Music]

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it was not the news Steve and Christy Gonzalez wanted to hear in August of

2023 just six weeks before the murder trial of Brian coburger was set to begin

he waived his right to a speedy trial

absolutely they would have to wait indefinitely for their day in court

I was really hoping that um we could get this show on the road because uh

the not knowing it just it's agony it's agony

[Music] Steve and Christy the parents of Kaylee

haven't left anything to chance after the judge issued a gag order to attorneys and law enforcement quote to

preserve the right to a fair trial they drilled down on their own investigation

and are now sharing what they believe that investigation found

Steve says he believes transparency is the best path to Justice we're not going

to just sit back and cross our fingers and pray that we're going to get Justice

[Music] it has been a long and painful Journey

for the families of Kaylee Gonzalez Maddie Mogan Zana kernodle and Ethan

Chapin the four University of Idaho students who were savagely murdered by a

knife-wielding assailant in the wee hours of November 13 2022 as they settle down to sleep in

their off-campus house on King Road do you ever dream of your sister yeah we've had some dreams of her

there's times where I prayed and ask God to see her get another time and

I did and just gives me some peace knowing that I know she's okay

[Music] Jasmine kernodle who is speaking for the

first time was a senior at Washington State University and lived only 15

minutes away from her younger sister Zanna often mistaken as twins growing up she

says they were best friends see this was always fun she was uplifting and she

took any bad situation and turned it into a good one Jeff what did you love most about your

daughter everything you cared about people

she was a people person scared about her friends just as much as like her family

for the first time in her life Zanna had fallen in love with fellow student Ethan

Chapin a triplet who loved his siblings boats and working on a tulip farm

sweetest kid ever they were just two happy people and they're just seeing the videos and

photos of them you can just like tell how happy they are they're just amazing together

sadly they will now forever be linked in death on Sunday morning November 13th zannah's

friends started calling Jasmine saying something bad had happened on King Road

Jasmine rushed over to Santa's house and while you're driving that eight nine

miles over to the house are you trying to reach your sister then how many times do you call her oh I called her called

Ethan a lot her next call was to her father Jeffrey had been visiting Jasmine

for Dad's weekend and was on his way home so you answer the phone what do you hear oh you're kind of crying and just

telling me to get back to Moscow and meet me at Santa's house and

you know my heart drops instantly race back down there

the house was cordoned off and swarming with investigators as soon as Jeffrey

said he was Santa's father he and Jasmine were escorted to the Moscow police department and Jasmine what does

the officer say to you and your father oh I don't remember exactly just that

four people passed away and that one was Anna the worst day of your life just

your worst nightmare just happened you know

what do you do you can't do a damn thing 100 miles away the gonzalvis family also

had been getting frantic calls saying something bad had happened to their daughter Kaylee but no one knew what I

just kept saying over what do I do what do we do what do we do finally at around four in the afternoon a deputy appeared

at their door and we said what's going on I confirmed your daughters died it's

passed away apparently you said there were four victims and we and I said four and he said yes ma'am I said can you

tell us if one of the victims was Manny Logan and he said yes ma'am

Maddie moken Kaylee's best friend from childhood give us a sense of just how

close uh Kaylee and Maddie were in life I think that they had a very

amazing relationship the epitome of true best friends from

very early I mean they were sisters through and through they were completely Inseparable

as soon as the news hit Olivia the eldest of the five gonsalves children

and her parents went into detective mode we had zero details we just knew they

were gone Olivia got into her sister's call log and frantically started cold

calling recent numbers she says a friend told her that Kaylee had been at the

corner Club bar around 107 a.m and later texted a ride share driver who Olivia

managed to track down the ride share driver said around 1 45

Kaylee had texted him requesting a ride from the grub truck which is the local mac and cheese food truck to take her

back home to 1122 King and she had with her another female

Olivia then uncovered one of the most important leads in the case the

Rideshare driver told her about a camera mounted on the grub truck so I was able

to look it up and find Kaylee on the video and I saw the girl that she was with was Maddie so at that point I knew

Kaylee and Maddie were together they got into the car to go home together and

alone the driver told her the exact time Kaylee and Maddie were dropped off at their house on King Road 1 56 a.m a

timeline she says she confirmed before the police I immediately took it to the

police officers here's her phone information here's the Rideshare driver's name Olivia says

Kaylee made a call to her boyfriend at 2 56 a.m but he didn't answer the

gonzalvises believe Kaylee fell asleep shortly after according to the police

affidavit Kaylee and Maddie were stabbed to death between 4 and 4 25 am

just as they had done since they were little girls they were sleeping in the same bed

those two best friends since little girls I don't think there's anything more

terrifying than what they went through I really don't

the killer took four lives in a matter of minutes but he left behind two

surviving roommates one of whom would provide a key description of the

Intruder it was dressed in black but muscular build and very bushy eyebrows

foreign

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if there is one picture that speaks to the Idaho student murders it is this

six smiling college students blissfully unaware of the Carnage to come it's

staged in a way that is almost in a strange way ominously predicting

investigative journalist Howard Bloom has written extensively on the student murders for great and Carter's online

magazine airmail he is now writing a book on the case on the ends of the

picture are the two survivors in the middle are are the victims and they're huddle together

Kaylee with a beaming Maddie on her shoulders friends for life

Ethan with his arm around Santa Young Love In Full Bloom a moment that should

have been a memory of their idyllic college Years would eternally be a reminder of the gruesome murders that

put them in their graves [Music] what makes it so tragic

is that forever preserved in this moment they'll never be able to leave this moment

hours after this photo was taken the four friends would be murdered their

deaths so violent even the house seemed to be bleeding there's literally blood

oozing out from the home you could see it on the exterior walls CBS News

consultant Brianna Fox is a former FBI agent and professor of criminology at

the University of South Florida that's how Bloody and gruesome the crime scene is according to the affidavit which

outlines law enforcement's investigation the bodies of Zanna and Ethan who was

sleeping over were found in or near her bedroom on the second floor

the bodies of Kaylee and Maddie were on the third floor in the same single bed

in Maddie's room how did your daughter die in that house what do you know

we know the autopsy we know the means of what is officially how she died she was

assaulted and stabbed several several times her death

certificate is the ugliest disgusting piece of paper that you will ever see in

your life and every line is a horror show every line because there's causes

of death and then there's contributions to death Christy and Steve spoke to coroner Kathy

Mabbitt before the gag order was issued and they say she told them how the two

friends were positioned in the bed the bed was up against the wall the headboard was touching the wall and

the left side of the bed was touching the wall and we believed that Maddie was on the

outside and Kaylee was on the inside according to coroner mabbit The Killers first victim was Maddie says Steve and

then from Maddie he moved on to your daughter you believe she had awakened at

that point yes yeah there's evidence to show that she awakened and tried to get out of that situation the

way the bed was set up is trapped she was trapped we know from

the affidavit that coburger's cell phone pinged in the vicinity of the house 12

times prior to the murders Steve says before the gag order one of

the lead investigators told him they believe coburger had been scouting out

the house you believe these visits were like he was like on an intelligence Mission a scouting Mission looking at

lifestyle patterns when they came and went who came to the house methodical

yeah he had to know when people were coming people were going it makes the Gonzalez's wonder if he'd ever gone

inside the house I think that he at least had opened that door went in

tested the waters looked around Steve says the coroner told him the

Killer's Rampage started on the third floor where both Maddie and Kaylee had

their bedrooms Christy thinks he wasn't expecting to find the two friends together in the same bed I do think that

his plan will awry I do think that you know he intended to kill one and killed four Brianna FOX also believes Anna and

Ethan were collateral damage according to the affidavit Zanna received a

doordash food delivery at 4 00 am then went back to her room on the second

floor it's possible says Fox that Zanna still awake came face to face with the Killer

and she sees somebody that she doesn't expect and I don't think he was expecting to see her either

one of the two surviving roommates Dylan Morton's son later told the police that

she heard what she thought was crying coming from Santa's room she heard a male voice say something to

the effect it's okay I'm going to help you not something a killer would likely

say to an intended target says Fox he probably was trying to make a split

second decision do I run away do I kill her what do I do and he decided to kill

her at approximately 4 17 a.m police say an outside security camera less than 50

feet from Santa's room picked up distorted audio of what sounded like voices or a whimper followed by a loud

thud shortly after Dylan the surviving roommate whose bedroom was near zanna's

opened the door according to the police affidavit when Dylan opens the door she

saw a man dressed in black with a black mask as she says he has bushy eyebrows

those bushy eyebrows become very important when the police are

making their identification the man with the bushy eyebrows kept walking to the rear of the house without

harming Dylan why was Dylan not killed again there's no definitive answer he

didn't kill her because he didn't see her he was sort of transfixed on getting

out he didn't kill her because she was satiated or he was simply too depleted

to kill again says Fox even stabbing somebody for a minute and a half not

only is that Overkill but it actually would become rather exhausting the police believe the murder weapon

which has not been found was a military-style k-bar knife similar to

this one the details are disturbing this is not a civilian knife

it was actually meant to tear apart bone ligaments organs so this is a extremely

brutal and something that you would never expect a person to walk

in and want to commit unless they took some pleasure out of the brutality of it

after seeing the Intruder Dylan the surviving roommate told investigators

she locked herself in her room it would be almost eight hours before 9-1-1 was called causing an uproar on

social media criticizing Dylan's alleged inaction but Brianna fox says It's Not Unusual

for people to freeze or be too afraid to intervene she had no reason to you know know how

to handle herself in that moment according to the affidavit the male walked towards the backsliding glass

door and presumably left the scene but committing murder and getting away with

it are two different things says Fox for an offender to get away with a crime a

murder they have to bat a thousand they have to be absolutely perfect and they make One

Singular mistake that's all it takes and that one possible mistake in this

case may have been the sheath to the k-bar knife one like this was found on

the bed next to Maddie Mogan it would lead investigators to the door of a man studying for a career in criminology

Brian kohlberger the alleged killer

timeline of the case go to 48hours.com

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[Music] day after day and week after week pass

and there is no suspect that is arrested what was that time like for you

that was the worst for 47 days after the murders the

families of Kaylee Maddie Zanna and Ethan and the country waited we do not

have a suspect at this time and wept

and weighed in people of Idaho and those throughout our nation Who provided

information has been very impressive we've received over 19 000 tips

then on December 30th 2022 Brian coburger was arrested in albrightsville

Pennsylvania at the time his attorney said coburger

looked forward to being exonerated what goes through your mind when you see

the face of the alleged killer oh I wonder who who is this why you know

never heard of the person before it still is confusing why at this point the

families knew as much about coburger as the public did a PhD candidate studying

criminology just 10 miles away at Washington State University in Pullman

I remember thinking I only have a few minutes to

look up this individual and to try to get any credible information before

things start getting wonky some of Olivia Gonzalez's online discoveries of

coburger made her uneasy he had made a few posts on Reddit in which he was

conducting it seems like a questionnaire to people in prison or jail who had

committed crimes how did you pick your victim or your target for seven weeks the families and the

country were left wondering for this type of an investigation

47 days is actually quick criminologist and CBS News consultant

Brianna fox says the Moscow police kept things moving

starting with a video canvas which produced footage from those early morning hours

showing a white car making three passes by the girl's house starting around 3 30

A.M less than an hour later investigators say the killer struck

[Music] they noticed that this car approached King Road left came back almost at a

U-turn finally went there around 406 in the morning and that car then departed

in about 25 minutes and sped off multiple surveillance cameras then

captured that white car as it traveled what appeared to be a less direct route back to Pullman Washington arriving

around 5 30 A.M that information helped investigators

identify the make and model of the vehicle and we're looking for a 2011 to a 2013

Hyundai Elantra Washington State Police find the car parked outside graduate

housing they get the license plate and they get Brian coburger's name they then get the driver's license and they see

the bushy eyebrows that in the eyes of one of the Moscow detectives must be the

eyebrows of the killer now armed with a warrant investigators retrieved cell

tower data from that morning which captured coburger's phone around 2 47 am

in Pullman when it suddenly stopped connecting to the network according to the affidavit this was also

around the time cameras caught a white Elantra leaving his apartment complex

there was indication that he turned off his cell phone which is something that a

lot of people do and they want to avoid law enforcement knowing their whereabouts his cell phone signal was

picked up again two hours later south of Moscow as it traveled back toward his

apartment building the affidavit described a deeper dive into coburger's phone history that

revealed this was a familiar neighborhood to him going back several months cell phone records indicated that

he has traveled past was very near the vicinity of his crime scene on 12 separate

occasions and Towers actually captured a 13th trip just hours after the murders

anecdotally a lot of killers they like revisiting the memory of the crime

I won I was able to get away with this and you guys won't catch me but they had one secret weapon to make their case

they had the knife sheath and there was a microscopic spot of DNA on this could

they tie this DNA to Coburg according to the affidavit the DNA was found on the

button snap of the sheath but when investigators ran it through the National Database there were no matches

it's unclear if Brian coburger knew law enforcement was watching when he left

Washington in mid-December coburger and his father who had flown in from Pennsylvania drove back home together in

his white Elantra coburger from what I've heard tells the father that he's in trouble with his his job he's concerned

enough about his son to want to make the drive back with him on the 2500 mile

Journey from Washington they are stopped twice for traffic violations

hello what's also interesting is coburger's reaction to the police is

this your car okay cool he's pretty calm and cool

father and son made it home to albrightsville Pennsylvania where Bloom says investigators initiated a stealth

operation what they did is they sent a team of Pennsylvania state troopers to

coburger's family's house law enforcement recovered coburger's father's DNA from the trash outside

their home which tested as a high probability it was the biological father

of whoever left DNA on the knife sheath so that was the Eureka moment which they

decided they could get an arrest warrant at that point they made the arrest of Brian coburger and they got a separate

essentially a search warrant for his DNA and when investigators compared his DNA

to the DNA on the knife sheath they say it was a statistical match at least 5.37

octillion times more likely to be co-bergers than anyone else

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[Music] where you sit today are you certain that

Brian coburger is the killer with what you know I don't trust anybody or anything so I

have to see it myself I have to see everything as the months pass Steve and Christy

Gonzalez remain a united front in wanting justice but their weight has

brought different perspectives your mind is still open to the potential of course that it could have been someone else of

course I go into that 100 yep of course

that's not where you are no no that's fine

I think there's any slam dunk criminologist Brianna Fox Says with the

gag order in place any hint of coburger's Defense has come from court documents it seems that the defense is

alleging there's a rush to judgment law enforcement made an arrest too fast and they focus on their client too quickly

a defense filing did reveal coburger's Alibi for the night of the murders it

simply stated Mr kohlberger was out driving alone the defense is not

necessarily having to prove that he's innocent they just have to raise doubt both Fox and Howard Bloom think the

defense can find ways to poke holes in the prosecution's case challenging some

of the key evidence presented in the affidavit including the cell phone location data and the white Elantra

there's other concerns such as whether Brian coburger's car was accurately

identified at the onset or if that was revised after knowing what Brian coburger drove the cell phone data makes

one suspicious of co-burger but it's not convincing it's not putting someone at someone's

doorstep is putting someone in someone's neighborhood if you can raise doubts about the

validity and the accuracy of the cell phone data I think your half way there

to getting the case against coburger either a hung jury or a not guilty verdict

[Music] according to the defense that there is

no DNA or forensic evidence found from the crime scene

Apartments car office or ombre and coburger's person so they were basically

alleging how could he have committed such a brutal murder and yet have no evidence found on him of that after

Consulting their own investigators Christy and Steve theorize that coburger

likely brought what they call a kill kit with him what do you mean by a kill kit

I think he had a backpack we don't know if it was coveralls pants we don't know

a defense filing also claimed the presence of other unidentified male DNA

was found on the premises three separate and distinct male DNA profiles were

found from the crime scene two were inside the house one was outside on a glove the defense wants to know who are

these people and what role could they have played in this whole story so what the defense is doing now is trying to

look for other narratives that make sense Howard Bloom has written

extensively about this case including a piece on a possible alternative defense

Theory involving drugs maybe someone had written egged on a drug payment and this

was a retribution of Vengeance for people not paying for drugs they had

ordered I want you guys to respond to one thing that's out there because the speculation that somehow drugs were

involved in this attack that's just Hollywood nonsense I I just dismissed

that because I I understand our society wants to believe in some of these movies that they watch they don't have these

crazy lives where they're crossing paths with people like that that storyline of

it being drugs gives people a reason to think why it happened because nobody knows why

and the reason I think it happened is because he wanted to that's what he wanted to do he wanted to

commit a murder Brian coburger's defense attorneys argue there's a lack of evidence linking their client to the

students the defense is claiming that the defendant Brian coburger and the victims have absolutely no connection

there's no motive in the minutes after Brian coburger was publicly named the

Gonzalez family went online they just told us the name and we immediately started Googling

they believed they had found a possible connection through Instagram and immediately took these screenshots from

our investigation of the account it appeared to be the real Brian coburger account

among the people this account was following were Maddie Mogan and Kaylee Gonzalez in addition to several people

with the name coburger but when we looked through theirs it appeared to have other family members that were

related to him at first Steve who works in I.T was skeptical thinking someone

created a fake account immediately following coburger's arrest but according to the family they

uncovered more possible connections you would go to Maddie's Instagram account

and look at her pictures and he liked them Brian's name was under a lot of

baddie's pictures like that picture and that picture and that picture and that picture so he was actively

looking at the Instagram accounts and the importance of that is what just

digital evidence that this particular account had some type of connection with the with the victims

48 Hours has not confirmed the authenticity of this account which has since been deleted and the gag order

prevents investigators from commenting [Music]

after dedicating months looking for their own answers the gonzalvises say

they are mentally prepared for trial no matter when it begins I think he's done

he's going to feel all of us just staring at the back of his head and he's going to know that we are the Gonzalez

family and he knows what he did to our daughter [Music]

[Music] um

foreign how could this happen to a group of kids

that are doing everything the way they're supposed to do to not known is what keeps you awake at

night and it's every day all day it never stops

why why why there is no why [Music] it is as unexplainable today as it was

the day Kaylee Gonzalez Maddie Mogan Zannah kernodle and Ethan Chapin were

murdered I wish they wish me knew they were

all four of them were just such a great people and I made such an

impact on the lives around them for now the families are left with

thoughts of what might have been

Kaylee Jade Gonzalez has been recommended to receive a posthumous bachelor's degree

her family will receive the diploma of the University of Idaho

on May 13 2023 exactly six months from the day of the murders an occasion that

would have been a cause for celebration graduation was instead another reminder

of what was lost those graduation photos it just

graduation is just one of many Milestones that will be missed [Music]

honor and I probably would have been hers and [Music] to have to go through those live moments

without her Jasmine kernodle planned to work side by

side with her sister Zanna creating their own marketing business

so it's not the same without her because she just brought like such a crazy

different energy than anybody else I've ever met Kaylee Gonzalez's future was in sight

she had accepted a job in Austin working for an I.T firm Kaylee not only pushed

herself say her parents but pushed them we lost that person that would force us

to make new memories and force us to go and take on something that seems a

little daunting at first guys for the gonsalveses amid all the loss

there was an addition to the family when in February Olivia gave birth to a baby

girl so her name is Theodora Maddie k obviously Maddie K is after Maddie and

Kaylee and if one were to believe in signs they're worse as Olivia several

with Theodora Maddie K's arrival in the hospital her room number

1113 was the same as the date of the murders November 13th

and eerily the time of birth 4 21 am is

in the time frame that Kaylee and Maddie are believed to have been killed

life and firsts first Giggles first walks that they

would be there somehow you know even if it's just in namesake

this is the Gonzales family Matty has truly been a blessing in our lives I'm

Santa's sister the families of Kaylee Maddie Zanna and Ethan have all searched

for ways sometimes together to cope with a horrible New Normal we all are always

going to be there for each other and it's just difficult we all we're all going through it in our own ways

for Ethan's parents Stacy and Jim Chapin one way of coping involves creating a

foundation Ethan's smile isn't just that a great smile and I smile all the time

raising money for scholarships by selling tulips planted in honor of Ethan

who had worked at a tulip farm so Ethan will live on through the

foundation that's what motivates us to to do this

how do you live with this Jeff it's not easy [Music]

just gotta keep going you know I think just like living our lives like

Zana would want us to I know that she would want us to talk about the life

that she lived and to be her voice right now she had a beautiful smile

her and Maddie the memories that we shared we don't do it lightly because they are very private

memories and sometimes it feels like I'm giving away a part of them but I do it for the importance to

realize how great of a loss it is because nothing's gonna bring them back

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